Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Modest Proposal ?'s-Due February 13th

Read "A Modest Proposal" in it's entirety. Then, I want you post your reaction using
these questions as a guide.

1.
What tone does the speaker of this this pamphlet use? In other words, if this guy
were alive, what would he be like to be around? Is this tone effective/appropriate for
the subject manner?
2.
What structure does he use to shape is argument? What the main arguments/point
that he brings up?
3.
What are examples of 'logic' that he uses? From an objective stand point(not gut
reaction, do they have logical merit?
4.
Go to www.logicalfallacies.info. What's a fallacy? What's an
example of a fallacy found in "A Modest Prosal"? What type of fallacy is it?
5.
What is your gut reaction to this piece of writing? Did your reaction/perception
change after you 'digested' the material and thought deeper?
6. Is this to be taken literally? If not, what is Swift's true purpose in writing this?
7.
Can you think of real life examples when people literally used twisted logic not in a
satirical fashion, but in a complete serious fashion to justify their actions?
8.
Should all decisions be based on logic/reason(as the Enlightenment suggests) or do
gut instincts come into play?

5 comments:

brock reynoldson said...

1.he uses lots of facts and gets straight to the point. yes it gets your attention very well.

2. He talks about the problems first then talks about a solution. he gives explanation, one point is that it is overyly populated and mothers cant support their children.

3. He says that you can not give them jobs because they can't do anything.

4. Fallacy is an error in reasoning, he is talking about all babies that are born are worthless.

5. that this guy was really frustrated with where he lived. No I think that he just needed to take a chill pill.

6. He probly wrote this to make people think about what they do more.

7. when people tell why they committed a crime in the first place.

8. I think that there is a time and a place for logic thinking but also a time to go with your gut feeling.

Drew said...

1. The speaker loves humans but hates humanity. He uses a lot of facts and is very scientific in his writing. I would say it is appropriate.

2. He structures his argument in a couple of main points by giving reasons that are pursuasive. His main point is that there are too many children in Ireland. Plus he feels that these children can be provided for and they turn into thieves and create problems.

3. That people will have better marriages because there will be less abuse due to the money involved.

4. A fallacy is a mistaken idea, like the idea that children could be food in A Modest Proposal. I believe its a formal fallacy.

5. When I read it, it seemed like this guy is crazy, and it stayed that way even after I read it.

6. I don't believe that this is to be taken literally but it is to show how an argument can be made to solve a common problem.

7. Yes, I have heard weird excuses that just don't make sense, when they are told.

8. Gut instincts are necessary for all decisions because people have a moral judgment that is very fragile and needs a lot of attention.

Joshua said...

1. The speaker talks in a matter of fact, straight to the point, very formal. His tone is effective and appropriate for this subject manner.

2. He first describes the problems and states them. Then he suggests some solutions to this matter. Afterwards, he wraps it up with a review of his "modest" proposal. In his view, Ireland is very overpopulated, the mothers cannot take care of the children. He thinks that all Irish children will become thieves and other deplorable people. He plans to fix these problems by turning the Irish babies into food, especially after Lent in March. He wants the food to be known as a delicacy. He says that this will benefit the cook, newlyweds.

3. Swift says that Ireland is in great poverty and that this proposal is crazy. He is just using this proposal to motivate people to get up and do something about the situation.

4. A fallacy is a mistaken idea, a faulty argument. He says he is on the street and he sees one women carrying 8 children and stereotypes them, saying that every mother in Ireland displays that action.

5. At first, I was utterly shocked by what he said. However, after reading it again, I saw what he really saying.

6. This story is not to be taken literally. He just wanted to motivate the Irish people to improve their situation and do something about it.

7. Yes, PETA saying that the National Dog Show is influenced by the KKK.

8. I think that decisions should be on both logic/reasons and gut instincts.

McKenna Moyes said...

1- I think that it grabs your attention very well. He uses facts and tells you like it is to get to the point he's trying to make.

2- First he states the problem and then states their solutions. The main argument is that it's overly populated. And also that mothers can't support their children.

3- he states that basically, people are being lazy and won't do anything. He is just trying to get people to get up and out to go do something.

4- fallacies are a mistaken idea. He says that the babies born are just worthless.

5- The impression I got about this guy as I read was that he was blowing things out of proportion.

6- I think he was just trying to make people think, not really meaning this literally.

7- Yes, people come up with some crazy excuses that don't even make any sense just to get out of something.

8- I think there are some times you should make decisions on logic and sometimes that you should go with your gut feeling. it just depends

B.J. Barelmann said...

The tone is serious but comical at the same time. He would be hard to judge if he was being serious about something. I do think it was appropriate or this subject because it made the story more interesting.

He brings up points about why the Irish people are poor.

He uses a form of logic that isn't really realistic.

a fallacy is a mistaken belief. an example of that is that the Irish people are of less importance than everyone else.

It is not to be taken literally, he is just trying to make fun of the Irish people for not being a wealthy nation.

They do it on the Colbert Report all the time!

I think it depends on the situation. there are times for gut instincts and other times for logic.